New Zodiac Signs 2011: Parke Kunkle On Astrological Change Drama
Can one man change the zodiacs? Parke Kunkle of the Minnesota Planetarium Society did just that.
Though astronomers have known this for years, he explained to the horoscope junkies that the sun doesn’t actually rise and fall through the constellations on the specified dates put forth by the ever popularized horoscope readings.
Babylonians began the practice of reading zodiacs thousands of years ago.
They were the ones to discover that the sun moves through certain constellations at certain times. The zodiac allows astronomers to plot the movement of the sun, but the dates vary.
They do not fall in accordance with the yearly dates put forth by horoscope readings.
It turns out that the zodiac was never an accurate way to predict the movement of the sun.
And, with changes in the Earth, it has become even less accurate over time. There are boundaries for every constellation. As they identify the location of the sun, they can tell which constellation it is in.
Kunkle’s story presented a seemingly obvious answer to astronomers, but this didn’t prevent the story he inspired from going viral.
Kunkle’s finding wasn’t even based off any new research. The astronomer was just answering a simple question in astronomy.
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man how people just goin change my zodiac sign out of the blue i don’t care what yall say im a pisces for life aquarius just doesn’t fit me
OH! Me too!!
I read that the zodiac changes only matter if u were born in 2009 and after. so don’t go having an identity crisis. LOL
Hell yeah! Pisces forever
Man! your right i’m pisces for life!!!!!!!!!!!
i’m a fu*king pisces for lifeeeee
Man me too, nothing but pure Pisces
For sure… this change is bullsh*t…. i grew up a Pisces and will always be one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no one can electrolyse me into any other zodiac…i was PISCES…i m pisces…and i m a Pisces for a life !!!!!!!
yeah ryt!!! im CAPRICORN for life…
i’m a pisces all the way…i don’t have anything against an Aquarius but i know i am sure not one.
I was Pisces,
I am Pisces,
i will remain Pisces!!
The zodiac is silly garbage. Any person could be any zodiac sign. The zodiac is proven to have NO relevance to the sun’s actual movement. That means the zodiac has ABSOLUTELY NO RELEVANCE to our personalities or who we are. All those astrology retards have just been proven IRRELEVEANT! Get over it people, your horoscope has always been a novelty.
SAY WHAT!
That’s bs about the zodiac signs,I think there doing everything they can do to hide the solar Storms that are supposed to wipe out 80% of earth population
kingreal, PLEASE tell me you aren’t serious…
That is really what the constellations are there for, to block anything that would hit the Earth. They do not really mean anything, and the people who believe in them truly only do that because the Zodiac fits them because it is so generic. Ever notice it never says to look out for the buses or don’t go down that dark ally next to your house? One day I was really sick and the horoscope said that i will be successful in my finances today and will have great meetings with people i have not seen in a while. BS i was sick, and nothing like that happened to me.
okay you tards listen here… you prolly shouldnt be messing with a THOUSAND YEAR OLD sh*t…. you are messin with the balance of stuff and its a**holes like you that put people into turmoil… STUPID!!! I like my zodiac sign right the way it is… n i doubt anyone will change theirs either..;
have a nice dayyy
umm u all know this only apllies if you are born after 2009 right? if not maby check ur facts before going out there and saying bull sh*t on people! kay ok buh bye!
Umm you know this change occured over 2000 years ago right, not in 2009. If not maybe check your facts before saying something. Someone made up the 2009 thing in an effort to save the market of astrology.
Not many people know this but there was always 13 constellations they didn’t use the other one because they figured and even number means there’s order in the stars
DUDE, put the pipe down and give it a rest!!!
hey why not…. pluto was a planet at 1point now its just a small lump of astrological rockfloating way out in the darkness of are solar system…. i mean its not as if though the zodiacs signs are set in stone…
What the heck! That is so not cool and yeah exactly you can’t just change somebody zodiac sign! I well always be a pisces.
Hell no. Gemini for life. My boyfriend is a Leo. I couldn’t imagine either of us being any different. Our signs fit us.
- I Feel You Bea Gemini For Life!!!!
this fact of universal change, which most of us knew about and one doesn’t have to be an astronomer to know common things about our galaxy and universe; if one is interested in knowing and reads, and learns, and changes with new knowledge, and then changes his mind about things, when he sees that he is wrong – that is the scientific way, an empirical way of looking at Nature of things…
All of the comments above prove that this planet is populated by zombies and not by thinking beings…
No, fuck science, i don’t want to believe in facts, but instead in some imagined nonsense … And calling everyone tards (retards?) when you yourself a primitive wanker, that’s just too fucking much…
Please, pretty please, think before writing something public or for that matter think before you blah blah blah anything… What Progress are we looking for if we base our “lives” on astrology?
to the kingreal78@youtube Save Yourself now and move to the moon…
i am sorry for being personal and i will try in the future to respect your superstitions….
Actually it would be worse if you move to the moon during a solar storm since there is not a magnetic feild around it. The magnetic field around earth is what protects us form solar storms. If a powerful solar storm struck Earth, it could destroy crucial technology and cause a worldwide blackout and maybe (MAYBE) kill 80% percent of the population. IF powerful enough…
It is my opinion that your zodiac sign would be according to when you were born, so whatever ‘constellation’ or zodiac sign was in at the time of your birth would be still true to this day, regardless of what they now change to. It’s like telling a horse to be a donkey.
this is BS I am not aquarius or however you spell that sh*t. just bc one man wants to think he knows it all doesn’t mean sh*t to the rest of the world I was looking up sh*t bout “”"”"my new sign”"”"”"”and they don’t even have the dates change or new sign?? listed on there sites. I’m not changing my sign I’ve been pisces all my life and thats how it’s gonna stay!!!
Wait so what are the new signs now huh
. . . Astrology has deemed me a virgin. . .
this is utter bulls***!! seriously!!! the solar chart is different form the lunar chart you fuc*s and you call yourself astronomers??? bahahahahaha thats the funniest thing i have heard all week. seriously you have not done research its in your head as the answer you want to answer with and now everyone has to change their signs??? seriously dude i think you need to either study your so called “profession” more or find another fricken job.. this one obviously does not suit you. just make sure you dont lie to the world next time….
Try to land an IFR flight 12 degrees off a runway and tell me if you believe or not. Thats a flight I will NEVER take. I use to be Taurus. I am Aris.
also from information i have gathered from other sites, apart from ppl “knowing” about this for years, ophiuchus is not technically a star sign…. it is technically the cusp of scorpio and sagittarius!! therefore in years to come they will come up with other “signs” between the usual 12 which are actually the cusps of those signs!!!
If the sign was eliminated some day, has to be a reason… I born Virgo and Im sorry for the astrlogists but Im Virgo til I die! I dont understand why the humans force things as they want…
Umm hello people your b*tch about nothing the stars change all the time some constellations even explode altogether and another thing the research has already been done and this only implies to you if u were born after 2009
CANCER 4 LIFE I DONT GIVE A DAMN
lol @ taylor listen here u tards i agree with him aint no1 wanna have a new sign like wtf r yall serious i kno for damn sure i am not goen to b a cancer im gud with me being a leo stupid fucks whoever changed or thinks dey can just change ppls zodiacs must b on crack
What about everything else? Like… Deeper astrological stuff! Im am aquarius shits for real! Lol we get along with everbody o…o or at least i do lol…
jus more reason for me to not believe in all these readin starz shizznitz>>!!!!!
bruh im all the damn signs how about that since im water i tend to absorb my surrounding very well. lol they can talk crazy sh*t so can I
i’m Leo for life cause the cancer sign just don’t fit me
im an aquarius and i dnt want to be a capricon..
same here im a capricorn 4eva!! NOT NO DAMN SAGITTARIUS!
M Sitting with “shannon bastien”
im still be an aquarius..
no one would change it.
wat the hell..
i do believe in this sign..
but d real thing is, its not wat i believe for?
lol!!
this is crap . 13 SIGNS what, there only 12 months in a year,I’m not goin to change my sign, im keepin my.
I know only God holds the keys to my life so why would i give a fuck. This just gives me a million more reasons not to blieve in the stars. U jst wanked then think u wise enaf to change a thing that has been thr 4 3000 fucken yrs. Ama be a sag 4ever. In ur dreams man.
how the hell they gne give the picies howevaa u spell it our siqn nn b*tch uu aint gotta be noo aquarious wee dnt gvee a fck cuss aquarious go ham n sagatarious n Leo !
#im out thiss b*tch!
This is astrology, so “east” means “other side of the world”, not “that part of our country”.
It’s also nice to know there are people on the other side of the world that use a system that’s different than “ours”.
Aries for life, my man is a leo.. if that was true. I would be Pisces, and him cancer. but whatever. Aries for life.
Im going to stay a gemini., Ain’t gonna change.
Okay, first of all, theres no reason to curse about this. The concept of astrology IS derivative from the the Babylonians, but it was designed as a system of counting. All that happened was that they noticed that a certain cluster of lights were in the sky at a certain given time, and they could use these signs to plant crops at an optimal time. and they used the winter solstice as a keystone. The cross of the zodiac is nothing more than a calendar. The fact that these Babylonians related their clusters for better explanation and memorization to other known earth creatures should mean nothing to you, and you especially should not be upset over it. And if you want to say that one man made this conjecture, you are incorrect; Bill Nye (yes, The science guy) predicted and presented this algorithm in the early nineties, and i quote from his presentation; “… So you might expect the sun to rise on Sagittarius, and it did, 2000 years ago when the Babylonians made all this up, but it doesn’t now.”. So there really is no reason for you to be upset. There is a war taking place, our government economy collapsed and is now publicly owned by several other companies, rendering us Plutonic slaves, millions of birds are falling from the sky simultaneously…. and you guys are worried about stars. The only star you have to worry about is the star designated “Sun”. Focus your attention on the birds. over and out.
God I love you, Logic.
You have taken the high road, and I the low and furious road. I wish I had your composure. I can’t talk to people like these, the ones attached to their oh-so-important (read: meaningless) astrological signs.
I just want them to die slow deaths and disappear, positively tipping the scale of the natural selection of our species.
Astrology A Cosmic Science by Isabel M. Hickey
very informative. found do to synchronicity. hope it helps someone
I dunno my change fits me better. I went from virgo to leo and seem to be more of a leo person
i am Aquarius but this new sh*t …….
my star is changed to Capricorn…huh
Well…..another fine mess we humans have gotten ourselves into….! Think about it all you techno, internet, cable, satellite, GPS modernistic robots. It has been for centuries and in a blink of an eye, one man says things have changed and like mindless robots, we all get in a tizzy and argue about it as if his wishes and desires are in all truth….FACT…! Shake your heads, get them out of the sand….! Tell Parke Kunkle to get his head out of his ass, look up to the stars and try to remember one thing…….! Some times in this crazy mixed up world, right or wrong, some things are best left alone….! I am sure somewhere in this world, some crazy bitch astromony nutcase is commiting suicide because everything she ever knew is now changed…..! Parke Kunkle…..it is all your fault….!
that was a lovely speech brian!!!!!!!
were your biggest fans!!!!!!! lol jk hehe 
Thanks Lizzy….! So many problems in this world and as usual…..we continue to add to our growing list of insane problems. Why do humans refuse to allow the world to wok as it once did. If it’s not broke….don’t fix it….! If tomorrow I write a thesis about changing the color blue to red……it is still blue. Every seen a red ocean…? One man can not change something that has been in existence forever and can not change something no one wants changed…! I believe in history we humans have allowed men to govern our lives…..! One man, one ideology, one thought….. I believe his name was Hitler.
OWN your own mind, HAVE your own ideas, RUE your own life and if someone thinks he or she can decide for you what will be…….a very simple rule applies that has worked for many years……! Tell him to kiss your ass….!
Brian, you are a dumber than rocks. These aren’t Kunkle’s “wishes”. He answered a question that anyone who’s taken a community college Astronomy course would ask: “Hey, why are all the Zodiac signs fucked up? They don’t correlate with the position of the sun anymore.”
He answered it. He’s right. Any nut out there killing themselves over this is just going to make our species stronger by exiting stage left. I hope everyone else who’s freaking out over this swallows a bullet themselves. Oops! You’re not a Pisces anymore!
*BANG*
Dumber than rocks….? Hmm…..? I must be……trying to read your completely screwed up name was enough to affirm that theory….! You must be one of the few who have taken apparently a community college course and completely understand that entire universe and all the stars…..????? Rather intelligent of you, but if bullshit and rocks are to be compared…..I’d rather be a rock….!
No one here is trying to say Kunkle or anyone else is right or wrong. We are simply stating the obvious. Leave well enough alone.
I wonder what sign you are…….? Must be the one that is smarter than the rest of us……oh ya……you took a community college course…..did you get your degree in astronomy or a degree in bullshit….?
To emumerate………! Red is red…..blue is blue……a dog is still a dog and a cat is still not as smart as a dog….! Mindless topic, mindless argument, a mindless world where one man can cause so much upheaval……! Simply ignore the man, ignore this and life will continue on. I went to bed last night a know it all Aquarius and woke up a new man……!
F*ck u Kunkle!! I’m Aries for life!!
OMFG!!!!!!!! Me and my friends dont give a shi*e about these new rules! We are aries, taurus and aquarius FOREVER! But also apparently it doesnt apply to to western area so its hopefully thats true!!!!
So basically I was born a Cancer but am now governed by Gemini. My concept has changed but obviously the planetary system is just going along with it’s natural course, intriguing.
dude derz no similarity b/w gemin and taurus…!! i’m a gemini and don wanna chang to taurus coz it just don suits meh……..!!!!!!!!
aries!!!!!!!!!!
Mayne ion appreciate them tryna change my sign…. thaz like changin my name!!! I been a Capricorn for all these years now they wanna bust out and say im a f*ckin Sagitarius <—- see i cant even spell that bullsh*t…. tha f*ck!!
hey gr8 news 4 me….
was a virgo n still a virgo……..
bt nw i dun wan ne other ‘Parke Kunkle’ to make ne mre changes……..
No astronomer has the authority to go and change the signs.
Nor does he need any such authority. He was only stating simple, observable fact. There are constellations in the sky, and the sun moves across them, and the start and end dates that the sun moves across these constellations can be observed and noted. (Well, with the right equipment, anyway. It’s a little harder with the sun overpowering the stars during daylight hours.)
If you don’t like that your sign is not what you think it is, too bad. It is the astrologers who failed you, not the astronomers. How can you talk about what’s written in the stars if you never look at the stars and acknowledge what you see?
The Zodiac operates in qualitative manner not quantitative as the astronomer seems to believe it should. As a professional Astrologer and i can say with any conviction how astrological influences operate, this is beyond the scope of science at present. However there is a lot of research to suggest that the planets and their ever changing geometric relationships correlate to the mortality rate, sun spot activity and all manner of other phenomena that ultimately effect life here on earth.
It may will be though that constellations as they appear in the tropical zodiac, the zodiac under intense scrutiny, at present, have more to do with the earths seasonal changes than they do with constellations themselves. Aries of course is the natural ruler of spring, this assessment is qualitative and experience has shown me without a doubt that people born under the influence of Aries seem to possess something of its archetypal quality. regardless of the shifting zodiacal cycle. as the constellations appear in space.
Beyond this many other theoretical considerations exist in the astrological community as to the question of how it all works. I suggest a reading of Carl Jung’s Synchronicity , which on page 111 mentions this exact problem. Indeed the whole problem has it roots in the concept of ‘ Synchronicity’ which asks what is the relations between objective phenomena and subjective states? This the real question that puzzled Carl Jung, as well as now many in quantum physic, and of course those who study astrology.
Yum, I can taste the akward feeling of all of your horoscopes being dumped on.
you cant fu*kin change the zodiac signs, dats like putin ora in ur pockets its prety fu*kin retarted and im pissed about it
i think im going to all ways be a llibra no matter what any body says
You’re my hero.
I am also a gemini and will never be a taurus
You’re my hero!
I was born a pisces (fish) now am a Aquarius( Aquaman).????????? why suddenly like this.Does it happen before?
I can’t believe how many people are so effing retarded that they say “F U KUNKLE I’M FOR LYFE YO!”
You people are the reason America is quickly becoming the dumbest country in the world. Take a fu*king Astronomy class you brainless sh*ts.
This wasn’t needed.
you’re my hero
Hmmm…….? It’s the man who has the answers to everything. He took an astromony class in community college and apparently he knows the universe and all the stars and the rest of us are idiots….! Sounds like a closet star gazer to me…..!
Simple jerk off……..no one gives a shit about changing our Zodiac signs. No science, no facts, just leave it the “F” alone….! By the way……maybe a new name might help some of us to get to know you….! You make Russian words look short….!
Dont panic! Everyone is going to stay with their original Zodiac sign. The dates have changed thats all, so for those who are going to be born on April they are not going to be Aries they are going to be piscis, for those who are at birth right now are not going to be Capricorn they are going to be Saggitarius. Us that were born in the last alignment we are still staying with our signs nothing is going to change, only the newborns are going to be with different signs.
thats smart and its funny how some people just don’t want to believe it!!!!!!
The change in the alignment happened around the year 50 BC it did not just happen, whoever decided it just happened in 2009 is making it up. Do some research you will see when the switch accured over 2000 years ago.
(another Candace) I’m not no astrologist nor will i ever be, but i know i ain’t no Ophiuchus whatever. I was born in the middle of the real Sagittarius dates and FTR turquoise is my colour. I am an athlete burning with fire, and dame right i have sexy hips and thighs. Fuck, i bet a few years from now everyone is gonna find out what the “scientist” say is BS because of some measurement error. Why don’t they go make those intellectual sagittarians Ophiuchus’ it’s a way more suitable match. Thats all i got to say. peace!!!!
STUPID!
I thought I had all the answers…..! Apparently it is a lot more simpler than need be…! Way to go Bailey…!
Oh ya we’re both awesome!
Who ever thinks this is stupid is the best ever!!
hahaha
THIS IS REALLY STUPID!!!
I ALREADY GOT USED TOO MY OLD ONE AND NOW I HAVE TOO GET USED TOO MY NEW ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND THAT NEW ONE THAT THEY ADDED IS JUST FREAKIN’ RETARDED!!!
Its absurd to say the using Kunkle’s method that the signs only effect people born after 2009. For those wishing to take what he says seriously , the equinox point was aligned to 0 degrees Aries in 330 A.D. After that this point in the sky that effects the layout of the entire zodiac began shifting 1 degree every 72 years. By the year 1000 is was already 10 degrees off , it is now actually about 5 degrees off not a full 30 degrees quite yet. Point is the difference in 2009 and in positions and 72 years ago is 1 degree.
Before 330 ad, going back about 2000 years it was aligned yet retrograding through Aries, the earth part of our era represents a change from of the vernal point between Aries and Pisces, the cusp of which I have calculated to roughly 330 A.D . The Fish and the Lamb of God are the 2 symbols that mark the cusp of the so called age of Pisces.
This alignment of the moving zodiac [ the one suggested by Kunkle] and the fixed [ the one used in the western astrology] happens every 26000 years . So for about 72 years the 2 forms of Zodiac are identical, excluding the idea of 13 signs verse 12. The reality here though is there has been as many as 36 signs in the past. Man conceptualizes all things in this way, breaking wholes into parts is a left brain process.
It is the study of a circle, and then how we choose to divide up and think about the cycle in the archetypal sense is open to dialectic discussion. If we look at the sound wave of a musical note, we find and archetypal analogy, a beginning Aries , a peak roughly to square to the beginning Cancer, a phase of diminishing, 180 degrees away Libra, and and inversion of the peak expression of the waveform, Capricorn. Which equates to Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter in the northern hemisphere. The other signs represent Phases in between the 4 I have named.
namaste
Cool balls.
Correction , it is 25 degrees off. not 5 …
apologies
…i’m always a gemini!!! coz the person i loved is compatible with me..
I went through the math and if the horoscope is all about the relative position of the Sun to the constellations, even a 50 degree precession will only shift the relative position of the Sun 0.002 degrees relative to the background constellations. Everything may appear shifted in Latitude or Longitude, but the relative positions of the planets and Sun to the constellations remain very much the same throughout the 25,800 year precession cycle. Bottom line: No Zodiac change.
This is nonsense! I am a Cancer I will always be a Cancer!! Nobody’s going to come in and change that fact. I wouldn’t want to be any other sign. I’m happy with my water sign, I love being ruled by the moon!! Both my kids are water signs. Another Cancer and a Pisces we are so harmonious together. None of us wants to change, as if we could. I’ll tell you what, when all this craziness blows over, come get me I’ll be hiding out in my Cancer the Crab shell!!!
Update: My previous analysis was correct, however the Zodiac reference point is tied (strangely) to the seasonal equinox and the shifting from precession does affect that. If they had just tied it to the Sun position and the calendar, we wouldn’t be experiencing this trama.
nice job..
Ok…..! Let’s recap….! We have many people on here with many different ideas. We have a man with a name that is so long, no one can, nor wants to pronounce it….cough….(Saggeminauriescorn)…! Hmmm….did I say that outloud…? We have people on here who not only wish to comment about the facts, or lack of facts, we have also been informed, those who don’t understand the entire concept of this new revelation……well…..we are retards…..(Saggeminauriescorn)….!
What I see, is the same reality over and over, again and again, from here to facebook to everywhere. Very few people give a rats ass about changing their signs and even if we are all wrong, who cares…! Given our desires and wishes, those who think we are retards, well…….better a retard who wishes to maintain what was given to them since birth, then a closet intellectual whose name is well…….hmmm…..something short of a “multi-schizophrenic closet know it all” who can’t decide which sign he is, let alone who he is….!
If we could all pause for a moment and hold our minds in unison as if we were holding hands, and through this meditation, perhaps if we all concentrate long enough, Saggeminauriescorn can one day become one with himself….! If we concentrate even harder, perhaps we can align the stars back to where they once were, and through this togetherness, the world will right itself.
Saggeminauriescorn……we all love you….! Best wishes in community college….! One day the scientists of planet earth will come to you for guidance……”Oh sensai…”!
I will always be a PROUD LEO!
none can’t change me!
LEO RULES!